Loading 9mm RN with Titegroup data horsegoalie Apr 24, 2013 H horsegoalie Rating - 100% 6 0 0 Joined Sep 18, 2012 Messages 284 Likes 27 Apr 24, 2013 #1/11 I am starting a load with some Berry's 115gr RN plated bullets and Titegroup. Used for my 9mm loads mostly. Velocities taken at ~4-5 feet from barrel. Brian Neace grew up in Southern Idaho in the Snake River Plain, surrounded by miles and miles of high desert to the north and bordered on the south by public wilderness. In addition, she is also an outdoor writer and photographer, as well as a national seminar speaker. I got the adjustable charge bar for rifle loads and tried it out with titegroup and it did not work. For over 25 years, he has worked in the firearms industry in product development, working and consulting with small arms manufacturing and related products. I remember seeing something similar here long time back. The .357 Sig handloads could have been loaded even hotter. I am using TiteGroup for 9mm, but I`m loading 124 gr. Growing up, Brian spent very little time indoors, with his passions being split between baseball and spending time in either the river, the desert, or the mountains. Growing up on a secluded farm in rural southeast Kansas, Ryan spent the greater part of his childhood in the woods, plinking and hunting. Hodgton indicates you can go to 4.1. In cases like this 9mm I would use the start data for the next heavier slug if that was there. The 9mm Makarov and 9mm Luger velocities of 1,000 fps and 1,100 fps respectively were quite respectable, especially in the short-barreled SIG SAUER P365. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Soon, Zach was shooting skeet and fell in love with the sport. She remains the only female to take home overall wins in national level precision rifle competitions when she won the 2016 NorCal Tactical Bolt Rifle Challenge and 2018 K&M Kahles Precision Rifle Competition. Titegroup: 0.356" 1.100" 3 . Its popularity soared after World War II, and the U.S. military adopted the 9x19mm as its service pistol round in 1985. It's for practice, not for competition. So filling up half way looks normal. So it is interesting that the starting 124gr load did not show a load for 900fps. Depending upon the cartridge overall length. A top quality jacketed bullet is a top quality jacketed bullet. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! Your link has been automatically embedded. All calculations were done by hand using formulas, please let me know if anything seems off. I haven't shot any yet but it would be disappointing if I had to pull 150 bullets. Dianna Muller earned a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice/Psychology from University of Central Missouri and retired from the Tulsa Police Department after 22 years of service. Phillip Velayo currently serves as Gunwerks Long Range University Lead Instructor. My question is how much would you load into a 158gr bullet. We believe the 2nd Amendment is best defended through grass-roots organization, education, and advocacy centered around individual gun owners. The google sheet has been updated for those interested in the difference or who want to reference the sheet. Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by jell-dog, Mar 14, 2017. Doubling that will come close to including practice rounds spent at his one-of-a-kind shooting range he built on the edge of the Snake River Canyon. Starting load is 4.5gr for 1135fps. I have been trying to get a 9mm 124gr RN load to reach 1200fps. Residing in Cheney Washington, Jake Vibbert owns JC Steel targets Inc. and is a strong competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and the National Rifle League. Brian now competes in both the PRS and NRL Pro series. This is safe, yes? But we're just a free cock punch away from finding out how badass you really are. The game hooked me, but I fell in love with the people! Since returning to competition on 2009, Dianna has earned a plethora of High Lady wins, including the 2013 and 2016 USPSA Ladies Open National Championship. Thanks all. Walkalong, that was my guess also, but there are other fast powders listed with 900fps and 950fps loads. I sold off all except Titegroup. I think someone posted that very information just yesterday. What's the difference between the Berry's plated bullets and FMJ? Save Share. I use 3.5g Titegroup under a 147g JHP. At first I was a little leery when I could not find the exact bullet I wanted to use with the powder I was using. The Lyman 44th Edition has data for Bullseye, Red Dot, Unique and Herco for 158 grain cast lead bullets . Again, plated & FMJ are NOT the same, close but not the same. YMMV. http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=9%20mm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/dm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=566352. BrianEnos.com Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. I wonder why the difference. I have found charge weights that fall in the allowable range. I have been using 3.3gr Titegroup under 147fmj at 1.15 coal. This is a new powder to me and I understand that it is a fast burn powder. During his time, Phillip completed 4 overseas deployments and served in all billets available to a Scout Sniper, to include Scout Sniper Team Leader, Chief Scout Sniper, and Scout Sniper Instructor. I use a Lee turret with the AutoDisk, and I'm finding that one cavity is at or lower than the recommended min charge, and the next cavity up is at or higher than the recommended max charge. I have been all over the internet looking for a good, sound load for my 9mm. Upload or insert images from URL. Since opening GA Precision, George has been building some of the finest precision bolt guns and custom rifles. On 1/7/2020 at 8:30 PM, looking4reloadingdeals said. I have found it to be very accurate, and prefer it over my power pistol loads. Shellholders: Lee #19 and 8 lb. Warning! I was ordering my daughter an archery set and decided to order a Lee classic loader in 9mm. Special Order 9MM (.356) 38/.357 (.358) 125 Gr Round Nose; 147 Gr Round Nose; 158 Gr Semi Wad Cutter; . 2019 Alabama Precision Long Range Challenge 5th, 2021 Alabama Precision Long Range Classic 3rd. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. I am gonna give it a try. Generally speaking, ~3.3 grains of Titegroup using a 147 grain bullet is about as vanilla of a competition load as it gets. Is this not a safe load? Look at the large picture below, you can see, a normal load barely fills the case, its way down in there. Both Plated round nose and JHP. After taking up competitive shooting in 2016, she, won the Precision Rifle Series Production division in 2017 with her Savage Stealth. He was trained as an armorer in the US Army, where he spent six years as a Military Police Investigator. As long as they cycle fine in your guns, you should be good to go. He volunteers as an alter sever at Mass on Sunday at church and is a member in the Civilian Airpatrol Program. 6 grains? We place limited powder inventory for sale on a regular basis on our website. As an fyi, stay away from the 147gr berrys with titegroup. Started at 3.8 but it would not cycle my guns correctly so had to up it. An avid shooter and outdoorsman, George takes pride in the quality custom rifles that G.A. Makes an impression on you. Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. Feb 27, 2020. He is a four-time World Champion, 13-time National Champion, the only Triple Crown winner in Action Shooting Sports and has 600+ (and counting) local and regional shooting competitions. You don't want to just use data from a similar bullet. Need to be careful with plated bullets because not all are created equal. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Hodgdon on line data is a good place to look. My guess is 900 FPS jacketed load is getting close to not being able to guarantee the bullet always leaving the barrel, where a 1000 FPS load is more certain. After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. For very low charge weights the opening is not big enough to constantly fill the volume resulting in very erratic metering. From their home in Montana, Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha follows Chad, Marsha and their two boys-Walker and Wyatt-across the world in hunting adventures. I saw that there, Rusty, but I need data for FMJ, not HP. Ryan still has a passion for hunting, but 3-gun gives Ryan and wife Dianna the opportunity to travel together and compete with and against amazing people. Except that is going to be huge high pressure and very dangerous. Why? Load two according to the new data for the 124gr XTP has an OAL 1.140 with a power range of 3.6 to 4.1 grains that would make this unsafe. Better like this than some of the disasters I've seen where someone basically takes a wild guess at something. Sign up to get updates and access to exclusive promotions. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. After serving his country, George spent 20 years serving his community as a police officer. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. Hope this helps some others develop some loads. Every match Ive been to that chronoshas the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. Wish i could find it again. And how are you metering 3.3gr? All loads used Winchester Small Pistol primers. Thank you for sharing Hodgdon Reloading data. Unique. They are calibrated at/for specified distances. It is our mission to encourage, organize, and support these efforts throughout Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Posted by David Blankenship on Aug 12th 2022. Some of these loads are over manufacturer recommended maximums, DO NOT COPY or try! We do not take backorders and our Tech Services team cannot take orders via email or phone. Its makes your gun a somewhat heat machine. He took his first turkey and mule deer at age 6 and his first bull elk at age 9. You cannot paste images directly. Display as a link instead, 1.100" Starting Load Grains 3.9 Then work up from there. She has a passion to introduce the shooting sports and showcase gun owners and the 2nd Amendment in a positive light. Your previous content has been restored. #1 As a beginner reloader, I'm looking for Titegroup load data for 9mm for 115 grains FMJ. Would the hp OAL be the same as that of the RN? I don`t recall my OAL for either without looking in my load notebook. This powder, like other very fast pistol powders, are not good for higher velocity ammunition and really only good for budget shooting ammo, competitions, or standard pressure ammo. These loads were tested using my Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph Premium Kit. Former lead pilot of the Blue Angels John Foley has reached been in contact along with Remington Mcbee and several others. I've had no issues in sever thousand loads, other than having to adjust COAL a few thousandths one way or the other. All bullets were taper crimped as a separate step in the handloading . His proven expertise in firearm manipulation and shooting techniques has enhanced the skills of countless individuals and agencies. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. I don't pay so much attention to the bullet manufacturer when loading. In her off time, Regina writes for many publications in both print and digital mediums, trains other shooters, and mentors several up-and-coming female competitors in the precision rifle discipline. Both are off according to the newer data I am not afraid to pull them apart and use data that I can easily find and a powder that has more bullets listed for it. That will allow you to get a finer-tuned powder drop. Not cast, but I have 4k 124gr Barry's plated over 4.0gr. He harvested his first turkey and whitetail deer at age 5 and completed his turkey grand slam by age 11. Titegroup This is a flattened spherical powder. I use titegroup for 9mm using the Lee charge disk on my turret press. Titegroup works very well for the load I am using on a wildcat. For instance I use Montana Gold hollow points and consider them to be pretty much the same as Speer/Hornady. I shoot X-treme plated at 4.1 grains. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Each week the Schearer family will hunt with a variety of weapons from archery, muzzleloader and shotgun to centerfire rifles and will not only focus on the hunt, but will be filled with educational tips to make the viewers better sportsmen and sportswomen. I am really enjoying reloading 45 ACP on my Lee classic loader. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. In Pistols and Revolvers.. More details in the thread in Tech Support for those who are interested. I`m using 3.8 gr for the plated, and 4.2 gr for the JHP. As a beginner reloader, I'm looking for Titegroup load data for 9mm for 115 grains FMJ. Obligatory start low and work your way upSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk, Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. Really..so, how would someone measure that? December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber. Here is what I have to work with and have used a combination of 3 books, 3 magazines, and self-reported loads from the interwebs. Hmm, I thought it was 5ft. The maxorder quantity of any powder SKU is, https://shop.hodgdon.com/sites/www/files/2022-04/2022-Hodgdon%20Spherical%20Pow. When I used titegroup my load with 147s was 3.0gr and with 124s it was 3.8gr, power factor was always around 130. I have loaded 38 spl with 5.4 grains with a 125g bullet. Speer says 4.5gr is max, Lyman say 4.5gr is max w/ 115gr bullets, so I am having a diff time digesting your data. This year my NRL Hunter has been with H-1000 and its incredible! ABOUT WALKER: Walker is 15 years old and has hunted from Africa to Hawaii, and several places in between, including the Yukon in Canada. In just five years, he has earned an impressive shooting resume with consistent top finishes at national level events. There aint nothin like the smell of burnt gunpowder in the mornin. Just In the 2019 season, he will compete in twelve two-day national matches and 15 regional matches across the country, totaling 4,170 precision hand-loaded match rounds burning roughly 131,355 grains (18.75 pounds) of Varget in matches alone. I consider the type of bullet. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, training, shows, accessories, classifieds, and more! All but 2-3 of those are with handloadedammo. I dont plan on stopping anytime soon and this year is scheduled to be as busy as any while shooting 4 different series. Its easy to double charge your rounds, as you will barely notice. For 9mm, with Sierra 115 fmj, 4.8gr of Titegroup. Second Media Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. 4 hours ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: 6 hours ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. One is hard pressed to find a nicer person. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I have load some test rounds (not shot yet) and used the data from Hodgon website. Zach has several friends that are getting into reloading shotshells because of Zachs reloads. Phillip is also well known as a nationally ranked precision rifle competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League circuits. I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. There simply isn't much load data for the super-heavy 9mm bullets. Works good in everything from my 1911 to Glock YMMV. Later, he started a granite countertop business allows him the time to pursue his passion for long-range shooting and high-country public land mule deer and elk hunting. I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. Use the LRN and you will be good. looking4reloadingdeals
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